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clarence thomas policy. the u.s. supreme court announces a new code of conduct, but the loopple holes are big enough to drive a truck through. plus, new reporting tonight on what lawyer jenna ellis shared with prosecutors in trump's georgia election interference case. now that she's cooperating. including that she was told, quote, the boss is not going to leave. and we begin tonight with a reminder. donald trump has told you who he is over and over again. so you should believe him. because as frightening as the prospect of a second trump term is, you don't have to wonder. he is telling us exactly what he plans to do. and that includes a reference to the nazi playbook, as he did on veterans day. with trump embracing the language of hate, using the words vermin twice to describe his perceived political enemies. first, in a social media post on his fake twitter, and later
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repeated verbatim in a speech in new hampshire. >> in honor of our great veterans on veterans day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections. the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. >> in using the word vermin to refer to the left, which is apparently more of a threat than russia or north korea, trump was using the same word historically weaponized by authoritarian dictators to dehumanize their historians and scholars were quick to point out two dictators specifically. adolf hitler and benito mussolini. trump's words could just be
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rhetoric since he has proven time and time again he doesn't know about history and doesn't seem to know whether the current president is barack obama or joe biden. one might also note, adolf hitler was imprisoned for staging a coup a decade before becoming the german chancellor, and it was in prison where he wrote the first volume of mein kampf. you can understand why historians are treating trump's worlds like the five-alarm fire it is. the trump campaign put out a fully unhinged, unapologetic statement basically proving they're right. steven chung said, quote, those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything because they are suffering from trump derindgement syndrome and their sad miserable existence will be crushed when president trump returns to the white house. meanwhile in another post on his
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fake twitter today, trump warned special counsel jack smith and other justice department officials will wind up in a mental institution if he were re-elected. the idea that people might wind up in mental institutions might sound like a bit if we didn't already know in a second term trump is planning to go after anyone who opposes him. trump plans to gut the department of justice and fill it with sycophants who will go after his political enemies and he's reportedly drafting plans to invoke the insurrection act on his first day in office to allow him to deploy the u.s. military against civil demonstrations. much of what donald trump wants in a second term is no secret at all. the project 2025 collection of policy proposals to give him all sorts of dictatorial powers has been in the works for years now. with the help of the heritage foundation. axios reports on efforts to prescreen the ideologies of
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thousands of potential trump foot soldiers as part of that unprecedented operation, to expand his power at every level of government. noting that hundreds of people are spending tens of millions of dollars to install a prevetted pro-trump army of up to 54,000 loyalists across government to rip off the restraints imposed on the previous 46 presidents. social media histories are already being plumbed and if trump were to win, thousands of trump first loyalists would be ready for legal, judicial, defense, regulatory, and domestic policy jobs. his inner circle plans to purge anyone viewed as hostile. adding that the people leading these efforts aren't figures like rudy giuliani. they're not ridiculous figures like rudy giuliani. they're smart, experienced people, many with very unconventional and elastic views of presidential power and
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traditional rule of law. one of the chief architects of project 2025 is a former trump adviser, stephen miller, the white nationalist dracula behind draconian and cruel trump policies like the muslim ban and separating immigrant children from their families and putting them in cages. as even more discusting, racist plans for a second trump term. "the new york times" dug into the plans. they include preparing to round up undocumented people already in the united states on a vast scale, and detain them in sprawling camps while they way to be expelled. adding that trump plans to scour the country for unauthorized immigrants and deport people by the millions per year. to expedite the deportation process, they're preparing an enormous expansion of a form of removal that does not require due process hearings. in a statement, top advisers for
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the trump campaign acknowledged reporting on the plans calling them merely speculative and theoretical. and if you are inclined for one second not to take all of this seriously, just remember that this is exactly what donald trump did with the federal judiciary in 2016. with the help of his crony leonard leo and his gang over at the federalist society. with a ready made list of people he would nominate to the supreme court, and to other courts, months before a single vote was cast. and the biggest alarm is that the face of this clearly articulated monstrosity, trump, is not just facing joe biden but an increasingly fractured coalition of non-trump options. as many as five people, maybe six, could be on next november's ballot. so just remember, when people tell you who they are, believe
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them. joining me now is ruth ben-ghiat, professor of history and a scholar of authoritarianism at new york university and david plouffe, former obama campaign adviser. thank you. ruth, i want to start with you, because the project 2025 stuff is frightening to me. as somebody who has followed politics since i was in high school and has done it as a journalist for nearly 20 years i have never heard anything like it. it sounds like a road map to a hitlerian or putin or orbon style government. how worried are you about the implementation potentially of such plans? >> i'm very worried, and i want to say that all of this goes together, the talking about people like vermin, goes together with the plans for instant, you know, action to purge civil servants, plans reported elsewhere by "the new
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york times" to find the lawyers who will be unethical because, you know, if you're trying to have an autocracy, you need corrupt and lawilous people to be part of the government, otherwise you don't get anything done. you also need to convince people to see violence differently, and donald trump has been doing that since 2015, trying to get americans to see violence as patriotic and necessary. and then you need to dehumanize your targets. through language that we saw, like they're vermin, which mussolini and hitler used because you want people to get over any last aversion to cooperating with violence or committing violence themselves against state enemies. >> you know, david plouffe, we know that stephen miller, who ironically is the grandson of holocaust survivors, is fixated on remaking the racial composition of this country. by deportation, mass deportation
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and returning to a 1920s era immigration policy that essentially will only let in white europeans. we know that donald trump still talks to tucker carlson despite tucker carlson having said he despises him and they share a view that non-white immigrants have made the country dirty, have made the country unseemly, and that they need to return power essentially to white men, and they're very open about it. they don't hide it. and yet, what you're seeing is this ideology being transmuted outside of just white conservative republicans into other ethnicities, into other ethnic groups are seeing this as this is a possibility. donald trump isn't losing support. he's gaining it with this open call to turn the united states essentially into a giant white ethno state. how is that possible, and what is the counter to it? >> well, joy, i guess i would
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start where you start, which is, you know, the danger of giving him -- would be one of the biggest mistakes in the history of the planet in global history. because i do think he won't be as successful probably as he would like, but he's going to organize his government and an outside game here to try to be much more effective to accomplish vetting, which is to turn america into an autocracy where he rules and then don jr. rules and then ivanka rules. and basically, white men, you know, have all the power in this country, maybe with the exception of ivanka. what i would say is most of the people that are going to decide this election, people right now in polls who might say, you know, all things equal, i would vote for trump. people who are still undecided, progressives and young people who haven't decided who to vote for or whether to vote, they don't know this is what he's doing to do. we have to understand that's what the campaign is for.
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the campaign is to feed this because the percentage of americans that would support -- by the way, it's scary how high it is, maybe 30%, maybe 35%, but it's not 50%. you need to feed this to them each and every day so you raise the stakes of the election and the important point you raised is you have to make sure voters understand there is only one way to save the country. and it is to vote for joe biden. and any vote to these third parties is vote for trump. because trump, i don't know, you know, i worry about these latest polls because he is at 49%, 50%, 51%, higher than he's ever been, but i think it will look different in the spring, but he's not going to fall below like 45%. if there's too many third party votes, he's going to win. that's what the campaign is for. is to make sure that all this stuff that we're spending all the time seeing, which again is deeply, deeply unpopular, so this is not a guy who has decided, you know what, i lost in '20, my party was awful in
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'18. we got our butt kicked in '22, a bad election week. i need to change. he's doubling down on basically, you know, destruction of this country. and we have to explain that and explain why that's important. >> i want to come back to that in a second, and the challenges in doing that. ruth, i want to come back to you. the thing is, i think people have a misremembering of the 1930s. the assumption was america rose up en masse to oppose hitler, to oppose that kind of autocracy. that's not true. i lot of americans had no empathy for the jewish people being purse kited there and wanted nothing to do with the war, and many sided with him, including very prominent people like henry ford. we had a contingent in this country that was actively pursuing potentially overthrowing our government, rachel maddow has taught us with her books and with her podcast, that wanted to overthrow our government and give us a 1930s style autocracy like hitler's in the 30s. we have a part of our country that's always been that way.
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then i look at florida, where ron desantis has been able to essentially implement an experiment in doing most of this, driving immigrants out to the point where he's hurting the economy. implementing book bans, implementing a lot of really weirdly 1930s policy and getting away with it because he had a party in tallahassee that was willing to do what he wanted. if trump comes back, he'll do that too. there won't be normie republicans. how do we fight against what trump wants to do when all the republicans who will be willing to stand up to him are gone. they have left washington, left the party. >> yeah, it's very difficult because the party has become an autocratic entity, and it is relying on corruption and autocratic playbook, lying, corruption, and violence and threat as a form of government. the reason they don't care about -- the reason they don't if they take positions that are
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unpopular is they don't really plan in the long run to depend on the popular will, to depend on elections. the end game of an election denial is to convince americans that elections are not necessary or the best way to choose their leaders. so they plan on having a kind of electoral autocracy where you have elections but they don't mean anything. you get tommy tuberville saying, oh, we shouldn't have elections. you have michael flynn saying maybe we won't have an election. this is all kind of psychological warfare, drip, drip, drip. when you put it together with trump kind of marketing violence as something positive and all the other things going on, it's just, i think civic education, which i have been trying to do since 2016, why i wrote my book strongman, is essential because as you said, people have the kind of amnesia. they don't remember that mussolini was an enormous star.
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he had a syndicated column, and he reached 1,000 newspapers for seven years, mussolini, and of course, we know that hitler was very popular. so we can't -- we can't forget this. and we need to come to terms with this reign of authoritarianism in our country that is being activated now. >> you know, david, it isn't us trying to insult donald trump by associated him with the 1930s. he does that. he associates himself. he doesn't feel it's an insult to compare him to hitler. he apparently had the book by his bed of his speeches. he's not against it. he said, you know, those people vote too. when he's told you're hanging out with nazis. he doesn't care. the other piece that is analogous is the economy piece. the economy on paper is good, but like the 1930s, there is very high inflation, very high dissatisfaction. you have a lot of young voters, a lot of voters of color on the
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democratic side who are dissatisfied. the jobs picture does not impact them. they have a job, they can't afford things. so there's dissatisfaction, and then we bring in what's happening in gaza. a lot of anger at biden. there's a sense that there's not that much difference between republicans and democrats when it comes to issues like violence against people in palestine, in gaza. and then you have all these options. people who don't like pandemic restrictions. there's a robert f. kennedy jr. for them. if you don't like what's happening in gaza and biden's stance of 100% support for whatever israel has, you have cornel west as an option. if you somehow have this dream there can be this magical weird bipartisan utopia, you have maybe joe manchin, you have jill stein if you're a contrarian. there might be that many people on the ballot. it's worrisome to me because i don't see the cohesion on the democratic side, the biden side, that i see on the trump side. does that worry you? >> of course it does. joe biden can win this race, with a degree of difficulty, because of all the factors you
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enormous. and you really have very little margin for error. and trump, you know, in '16, he won the presidency winning 46.1% of the vote, including getting 46, 47 in battleground states because you had stein and gary johnson, and it was that 30 party factor. so it's a huge issue here. and i think at the end of the day, first, i would say on the economy, i think the white house understands this, but democrats have to understand, i have learned this lesson the hard way. you can never tell a voter how they should feel about the economy. they'll tell you how they feel about the economy. and while the unemployment rate is low, i think people are never satisfied with wages, nor should they be. people have their paychecks going not as far as it was, certainly pre-pandemic. and these high rates are causing factors maybe not for everybody, but enough people. and then you add the global uncertainty. so biden's going to have a really tough time around the
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economy because voters also kind of remember this rosy period pre-pandemic where even though trump was largely profiting from the barack obama economy, people remember it being quite strong. so you have to prosecute an economic argument here, but for all these other voters out there, the notion that we would become an autocracy, the notion we would become basically a white power country, is not supported. you have to raise the stakes. this is going to be like navigating a super treacherous obstacle course because of all the factors you talked about. >> the question is whether abortion is a strong enough deterrent and the desire for gun reform, which are powerful issues for young voters, are enough to move them in the direction to save them from what donald trump would do the the country. scary stuff, but important to put it on the table and talk about it. thank you both very much. up next on "the reidout," after a series of scandals involving right-wing justices, the supreme court is adopting a code of conduct. but it doesn't really prevent clarence and company from
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further proof that sunlight is the best disintectant, earlier today, the supreme court announced for the first time in its 200-plus history, it has adopted a code of ethicser sort of. five canons of conduct on issues such as when justices should recuse themselves and what kind of outside activities they can engage in. it fails to mejz how it will be enforced or who will enforce it. a clear effort by the high court to short circuit an incrsing pressure campaign from senate democrats to impose ainng code for justices especially after reports from propublica that clarence thomas and samuel alito did not disclose free trips from wealthy donors. that was turned up last week
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when the senate jushy committee debated issuing subpoenas to those donors. joining me is elie mystal, justice correspondent for the nation. how seriously should we take thatithics code? let me read a little before. it says here, the absence of a code, however, has led in recent years to the misunderstanding that the justices of the court unlike all other justices in the country regard themselves on strict rules. >> misunderstanding. so we were confused about whether or not supreme court justices can have their mother's houses paid for by wealthy republican donors. oh, thank you, john roberts, for elucidaing that they can. there are no ethics involved in the code. there is nothing in this 14 pages of weak sauce that restrains people like clarence thomas from doing everything
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that clarence thomas did. nothing about not taking gifts from wealthy donors or taking trips or taking free vacations or taking free houses. nothing in there is unethical according to the supreme court. so i would call this ethics reform toothless, but that's a bit of an insult to people who have dentures because it's weaker even than that. this ethics code is best understood as only clarence thomas can decide whether or not clarence thomas violated clarence thomas' rules. it's like rickey henderson wrote this for himself. and so that is the setup. the idea that this weak sauce ethics rules, so-calls ethics rules, there's no enforcement mechanism as you pointed out. it's still up to the individual justices to decide whether or not they should recuse, no third party adjudication about any of these potential ethics violations. so what is it for?
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and joy, you hit it exactly right. this has an audience of exactly one. senate judiciary chairman dick durbin. this is john roberts' attempt to push durbin off of his investigation, an investigation that, by the way, the supreme court justices are still refusing to show up and testify about. it's to push him off their investigation and to give ranking republican member lindsey graham something else to scream and cry about when he tries to justify the unethical behavior of the supreme court. >> let me read a little bit of it. this is their code. the justice may accept reasonable compensation for expenses from activities at the source of the payment doesn't appear improper. it should be for reasonable travel and costs. but the justice's spouse or
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relative. for some time, all justices have attempted to comply with the statute governing financial discloser and the undersigned members of the court individually confirm that commitment. the idea they have attempted to comply with the compensation reimbursement piece, it's really a suggestion. >> it's captain barbosa from pirates of the caribbean. the code is more of the guideline. that's what we're talking about here. this idea they have attempted to comply, well, you done failed. you done failed at the compliance part. so what have you done to make sure you will comply going forward? i have done the google search. i have seen a lot of people do this. the code says in 14 pages uses the word justices should, the word should, 53 times. it uses the word justices shall, shall do something, zero times. so again, this is not worth the paper it is printed on. it is like erecting a dam with a
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chainlink fence. it's a giant waste of time for everybody. there's also one more thing i think is worth pointing out. it's also incredibly permissive of the real kind of graft and corruption the supreme court likes to do, which is to appear at leonard leo's federalist society events. just last week, at the federalist society's annual gala, four of the conservatives showed up. and the featured speaker was amy coney barrett. this ethics code literally proscribes contactually how amy coney barrett is allowed to keep doing that by some legal mumbo jumbo redefining what a fund-raiser is, so that the federalist society's annual gala doesn't count as a fund-raiser, according to these rules. they're useless, dick durbin should ignore them and press on with his investigation. >> i will note for the audience that they're doing this why the federalist society is also
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writing up ideas for how donald trump could essentially rule us as a dictator. and one of the sort of guardrails against him becoming a dictator is supposed to be this exact same supreme court that leonard leo owns. fabulous. elie mystal, all working out just perfectly. thank you very much. up next, brand-new reporting on what trump lawyer turned cooperating witness jenna ellis told georgia prosecutors. you don't want to miss that. we'll be right back. trio. the thrill seeker. the soul searcher. and - ahoy! it's the explorer! each helping to protect their money with chase. woah, a lost card isn't keeping this thrill seeker down. lost her card, not the vibe. the soul searcher, is finding his identity, and helping to protect it. hey! oh yeah, the explorer! she's looking to dive deeper... all while chase looks out for her. because these friends have chase. alerts that help check. tools that help protect. one bank that puts you in control. chase. make more of what's yours.
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as part of her plea deal in the georgia election interference case, former trump campaign lawyer jenna ellis had to tell prosecutors what she knew. abc news has obtained portions of her interview with the fulton county prosecutors. in it, she discloses a conversation she had with top trump aide dan scavino weeks following their supreme court loss, which essentially ended their ability to challenge the election results based on bogus fraud claims. according to ellis, scavino said strump was never going to leave office. >> he said to me, in a kind of excited tone, well, we don't care when we're not going to leave. i said what do you mean? he said well, the boss, meaning president trump, and everyone understood the boss, that's what we all called him, he said the boss is not going to leave under any circumstances. we are just going to stay in power. and i said to him, well, it doesn't quite work that way, you
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realize. he said we don't care. >> wow. joining me now is glenn kirschner, former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. i will note, in a statement to abc news, trump's lead counsel in the fulton county case called the, quote, purported private conversation absolutely meaningless. do you consider it meaningless, glenn? >> no, and it doesn't matter if it was a private conversation or not. there is no sort of privacy exception to introducing at trial this kind of sharply incriminating information. i think the challenge, joy, becomes who did donald trump say this to, and do prosecutors in georgia or federally jack smith, have this statement in admissible form? it's being attributed to dan scavino. did he hear it out of trump's own mouth? if so, it's admissible, but somebody saying dan scavino told
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me that the president said this, that's heresy. it's inadmissible. it raises the question, i know it feels like a very long time ago that dan scavino and mark meadows were referred for criminal prosecution for contempt of congress and all of that just sort of died a quiet death. so could it be that perhaps somewhere along the way dan scavino decided to cut his losses, cooperate with prosecutors, and tell the truth about what he knew about the crimes of trump and others? that remains to be seen. but the natural question now is where is dan scavino in all of this, and has he divulged this evidence to the prosecutors. >> and if he hasn't, would you expect a subpoena for him to drop now that this has dropped? >> oh, it may very well be that there's a superseding indictment with his name on it so that he will be an indicted defendant, but we will see.
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you know, a subpoena, we're not completely beyond the subpoena phase of these cases because prosecutors even after they return initial indictments can continue to use the grand jury, continue to use the subpoena power to investigate others who have not yet been charged, but it really does feel like both in georgia and in d.c. at least with respect to the first donald trump criminal trial, we are in the chute and moving toward trial, and the grand jury investigation piece and the opportunity to use subpoenas is sort of in the rear-view mirror at this point. >> let's switch gears and talk about cameras in the courtroom. donald trump now wants them. you know, jack smith's argument is the opposite, it would be a circus and trump wants a circus. what do you make of the fact trump has now joined, including our own network, nbc universal is one of those media entities petitioning for cameras. what is your view that the
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defendant wants the cameras in? >> my view is he knows that it is unlikely we're going to have cameras in the federal courtroom. i frankly would like to see cameras in the courtroom because i think we the people who are the victims of count four because donald trump tried to defraud us out of our voting rights, we have a right not to be excluded from the courtroom. that's the federal law. and we will de facto be excluded if we don't have cameras in the courtroom. all of that being said, i think donald trump has made the calculation that it's unlikely the federal system will bend and allow cameras in the courtroom, so he will forever scream, i wanted cameras in the courtroom, nobody got to see what went on in the courtroom. therefore, you know, what he's trying to do is attack the process. and the people who populate the process. if you read the 4 1/2-page pleading that was filed by donald trump and his lawyers, it may be the single most embarrassing and irresponsible court filing i ever saw in my 30
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years as a prosecutor. it reads like a four-page donald trump 2:00 a.m. social media post. it does not read like a legal pleading and what he does, joy, is he rails against the judge, against the prosecutors, and against president biden. i think it's because he has a sense, he's likely to lose on the evidence, so he has to try to undermine confidence in the process and in the institutions. so people, the public are perhaps less likely to accept the result, which will almost undoubtedly be a guilty verdict, a conviction. so i think that's his play at this moment. >> glenn kirschner, always so valuable to hear from you. thank you very much. and coming up, humanitarian crisis in gaza is getting worse. and calls for a cease-fire are growing. that is next.
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israeli strikes continue to pound gaza with hospitals full of children on the front line. the main hospital serving gaza city is no longer funging after three days without power. that's according to the world health organization. who also told bbc that al shifa hospital has lost the ability to carry out basic functions and has effectively turned into a morgue. the horrors emerging from gaza are stoking outrage worldwide. during hundreds of thousands of protesters marching in
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solidarity with the palestinians right up through this weekend. the call for a cease-fire is accelerating from london to jakarta to right outside president biden's delaware home, a sign of a deep fracture over gaza in the u.s. black christian faith leaders are sounding the alarm as well, meeting with white house officials and members of the congressional black caucus. prominent black clergy sent president biden a simple and direct message. a full-page ad in "the new york times" that calls for a cease-fire and immediate de-escalation, including the return of all hostages held by hamas. joining me are two of the faith leaders calling for a cease-fire. the reverend mark thompson, host of the make it plain podcast, and the reverend leah daughtry, presiing over the house of the lord churches and cofounder of black church pac. thank you for being here. reverend, i want to start with you. this letter's purpose, please explain it, and please explain if you have had any response
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from the biden administration. >> first, thank you, joy, for having us this evening to talk about this critically important issue. we decided to do this letter because as people of faith, as people of conscience, and given the call and who we purport to serve, that is creator god, we could not stand by and watch the horror that is taking place in gaza and in israel as innocent lives, whether it is through hamas and the killing and the taking of the hostages or whether it is the tens of thousands now more than 10,000 women, children, families, whole families that are being decimated by what we felt was a disproportionate response by the nation of israel. so we wanted to be very clear and on the record as christian faith leaders, we did not want anyone to have in doubt what our theology was saying about this matter, which is that the nations are called to conscience
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about how we are treating these people, how we are seeing their lives and how we value their lives. at the end of the day, if we decide that palestinian lives are expendable, it says something about us and our moral authority and our moral center that we could diminish and demean god's creation. and that's why we wanted to be very public about the statement. we met with the congressional black caucus, and also with the white house to hear our feelings and thoughts before we published the letter. they were well aware. we gave them a heads-up this was coming. we know we will continue to press this issue, press this case until we see the cease-fire that we think is necessary on both sides. >> and reverend mark, my friend, you know, there's a sort of a disconnect i think for a lot of people when they see black faith leaders coming forward with a letter like this.
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historically, the black church has been aligned with the israeli people, but there have been folk who have sided with the palestinian cause. doctor king spoke about what he thought israel should do. he cancelled a march of black clergy in israel just after the 1967 war broke out. can you talk about some of the signatories here and the connections between african american clergy and this issue? >> thank you, joy. god bless you as well. pastor michael mcbride called us together to sign this very important letter. we as black clergy not only have to ask ourselves what would jesus do, but what would mlk do? and he did speak out
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-- there has to be a better way. as far as the decision is concerned, this 60 to 1980, when another conflict actually caused him to lose office, so we have to stand up. you hear more people in the faith community, particular young people, no people of color, in particular, saying, they're not going to vote, because of u.s. policy or lack thereof, when it comes to reason. both sides, all sides, they all should be saved. there must be a better answer and the redemption and peace. >> i just want to read you what dr. king said, talking about king canceling the pilgrimage in 1967, at the captured west bank, during a phone call with pfizer's, he said, i think if i go airborne to africa and asia for that matter when this is endorsing everything that israel has done, then i do have
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questions of doubt. i wonder if, reverend daughtry, there is a thought about broadening who is on this list. this is black clergy. there are a lot of jewish americans also marching in favor of the cause. is there a consideration at some point that there will be -- in d.c., but was there a thought of expanding the list of people to people that were not black clergy. >> you know, joy, we thought about that could have easily placed five or six new york times ads for the people interstate. what we thought was important was christian faith users, we are not jewish or muslim and also because of the long history that we have had with the jewish community, and their solidarity with us in civil rights movement. of course, the palestinians, as well, it was important for us to say as a community, as fate leaders across the nation, that what our opinion is, and that were standing on the side of
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conscience, on the side of peace. >> reverend mark thompson and reverently adultery, thank you both very much. up next, the story of justice in the united states military, more than 100 years late. we'll be right back. we'll be right back.
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overdue reversal by the united states military. nbc's priscilla thompson has more. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> honor restored to the 110
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men of the all-black 24th infantry there'd battalion, more than a century after the army convicted them of murder, mutiny and assault, executing 19. among them -- >> first class thomas c hawkins. >> jason holt's uncle. >> what does today mean to? >> justice, and we don't know what he could have been. that was all taken away. >> the regiment arrived at the jim crow south in july 1917, on august 23rd, a black corporate was reportedly shot and beaten by police. the soldiers were told, a mob was coming. >> that spurred a group of more than 100 black soldiers to seize weapons and leave camp, thinking that they were marching with their own self defense. >> melee ensued. 19 people died, most were white. 110 black soldiers eventually
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stood trial, all were convicted. >> now, with the army setting aside these convictions -- >> today, the u.s. army issued honorable discharges, making their survivors eligible for benefits. >> it's never too late to correct an injustice, and overturning court marshals was the right thing to do. >> your uncle wrote a letter to his parents. and hero, i am not guilty of the crime that i am accused of. >> he demonstrated courage, demonstrate a conviction, demonstrated a sticking to certain principles. >> priscilla thompson, nbc news, houston. >> nbc's priscilla thompson, thank you. that is tonight's read out. insight with jen psaki starts right now. right now. >> right now, donaru


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